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bladekindeyewear:

(the second image isn’t canon, it’s from here, but anyway:)
Dogsbody’s longpost gave me one HOLY SHIT of a theory.
You know that Dirk brain ghost of Jake’s?
What if he’s the dead Auto-Responder, and doesn’t know it yet?!
A lot of AR’s mannerisms predicate on the fact that he’s ironically pretending to be robotic. But if he doesn’t remember that he was…

Okay, there’s an alternative theory for this, and I don’t like it, but a friend brought it up to me (and facetiously argued for it for a while) and I can’t actually disprove it so I have to bring it up.

The theory is that AR has a dreamself. Not that he’s dreaming in a bubble… that he literally has a Derse dreamself. A pair of dream shades.

Yeeeeaaah. You can see why I don’t like this theory.

Basically, the way it works is that the shades on dream!Dirk’s face are actually dream!AR. AR doesn’t see on Derse of course… unlike Dirk, who woke up on Derse a little while after AR was created, AR’s dreamself is still asleep.

So if AR were broken, and say, his cracked frame was kissed - let’s say by Roxy - dream!Dirk’s roboshades would suddenly wake up. In which case, Dream!AR would clearly be able to dead-dream while he’s asleep, at which point he’d be brain-ghost Dirk and he wouldn’t be confused at all about being AR and yeah this is so very, very stupid.

But despite how much I hate it, there is a little evidence.

Remember how Dream!Roxy had Jaspers/Frigglish in her dreamroom?

> “Roxy: Wake up.”
What the heck was that all about?
Oh, hey there Frigglish. He greets you with a sly, conspiratorial purr, almost as if he was privy to what you dreamt. Which is impossible of course.

Hmm.

So I guess the dreamself thing could be fudged?

Where do dream selves come from? Which is to say, are they created somehow simultaneously with ectobiology? Or are they just sort of eternally there? We know they age; we’ve seen young dream Jade. But virtually everything in the incipisphere is “already there” as part of the stable loop clusterfuck. So when are dream selves “born” and placed in the towers?

They are there since the kid is “born”. Meaning if a kid is 13 years old, then that dream kid has also been on Prospit for 13 years, either asleep the whole time or growing up there in parallel with the real self.

How they get there in the first place is just as indeterminate as how Prospit and Derse get there in the first place. Like software constructs, which once instantiated, exist and behave as if always there.

So…

Yeah, I don’t like this dream!theory. At all. I want to stab it. Doesn’t make narrative weight sense to pull this unless it’s a dead AR, anyway. Stab stab stab.

(Please reblog the original theorypost, not this, this sucks!)

2012-6-25