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 bladekindeyewear:“ bladekindeyewear:“ This is a theory I’ve had for some damn time: Gamzee obtained, raised, and locked in the ectobiological coordinates for Calliope/Caliborn, an ecto-child of Jade Harley, Karkat Vantas, and (optionally) also Lil’...

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This is a theory I’ve had for some damn time:  Gamzee obtained, raised, and locked in the ectobiological coordinates for Calliope/Caliborn, an ecto-child of Jade Harley, Karkat Vantas, and (optionally) also Lil’ Cal.

FOLLOW-UP ADDENDUMS: (Lord English’s True Name), (Buckets and LE), (STEAK), (Echidna’s (Abraxas’s?) Bones)

Yes, this is a serious theory.  And it explains plenty:

EDIT:  Added MORE POINTS in smalltext! :D

  • His use of Aradia’s Timeboxes shows us where Gamzee is hiding on the meteor:  Its future!  Since it eventually ends up where Calliope and Caliborn are, Gamzee could have wound forward past its entry and exit of the alpha session, free to mess around in peace.
  • Wherever and whenever Gamzee is hiding, he has to burn three years to match the ages of everyone else.  Why not spend those three years raising a cute little skull monster baby who just happened to come down on a meteor?  Once the child could fend for itself, Gamzee could have simply rewound back to when the meteor entered the alpha session, joining the others at the same age.
  • Someone raised Calliope/Caliborn, alchemizing(?) and setting up a bunch of equipment that they clearly do not understand, calling them ‘jujus’.  (Separately from the official, timeloopy ‘jujus’.)  When you take the timeboxes into account, the voided-out book, and the boxfuls of special stardust the cherubs were left to eat, Gamzee is the clear likelihood for that someone.
  • Many of Lord English’s features have been explained in Caliborn, but one of the looming mysteries is why he has a tendency to HONK.  If Gamzee had raised him, this would be very clear!
  • A human/troll hybrid has the potential to be very alien, especially if one adds a corrupting element (the optional Cal) to the mix.  Of the human/troll hybrids possible, Karkat && Jade makes the most sense given their personalities, symbols, elements of clothing, quirks, and associated colors.  They are VERY similar to Karkat and Jade.  In fact, it makes so much sense that when UU gave us her first conversation, I had initially surmised that she was a future Jade/Karkat hybrid demi-troll!  (While it was eventually ruled out by her seemingly implying she was a troll, before the Cherub reveal, I still found it QUITE suspicious that the Karkat similarities were brought out in full force with her brother.)
  • ROMSPEC DISCLAIMER:  A Karkat && Jade ectochild is NO INDICATION that Karkat/Jade will be a final pairing.  In fact, it might mean the opposite, serving as the ‘resolution’ / ‘cashing-in’ of all the romantic foreshadowing between the two, and other odd coincidences like that BARK/KRAB/BRAKA code.
  • Why would Karkat and Jade be chosen?  Why, because of Gamzee, of course!  Do recall that someone locked in the ectobiological coordinates for John in his session, presumably one of the guardians.  If Gamzee serves as that someone for Calliope and Caliborn by getting into their session… why, perhaps while lurking around in the background and watching everyone pre-horrorstuck, Gamzee had observed Karkat warming up to Jade?  And perhaps, in his infinite wisdom whimsy, he decided it would be great if they had children?  Hm? :)
  • Caliborn is clearly a young Lord English.  Calliope is rather set to make an incredible sacrifice with her death, possibly facilitating the creation of all of Paradox Space.  As the individual responsible for the existence and nature of these two(ish) individuals, Gamzee would cement his position as the most important character in Homestuck!
  • EDIT: ADDITIONAL POINTS:
  • Boltstuck added some wonderful evidence:  ”We know that Andrew likes to borrow from his past works;  Gamzee has already shown parallels to “Whistles: The Starlight Calliope” and there’s a good chance of Caliborn/Calliope’s origins being another call-back. — The comic centers around the titular Whistles, an innocent and well-meaning clown who’s unfailingly loyal to his evil Master and goes into brutal, violent rages when said Master is hurt or threatened.  His Master is “unkillable” in that every time he is slain, a new version of him is spawned.  Much like with Lord English’s multiple incarnations.  Toward the end of the story, Whistles’s two fellow clowns find a way to prevent the respawning - but not before an infant version of the Master survives the attack and convinces Whistles to adopt and care for it.
  • According to UU: “UU: my species has never even had a home planet.”  Never?! Life and sentience require rich diversity and millions of years to evolve.  Cherubs couldn’t have evolved in the void, with nothing… therefore, it’s most likely that they had a shortcut.  Andrew is implying that Cherubs were ectobiologized as a race, their initial seed population growing to spread throughout the universe.  And thus, they almost certainly had an external DNA source from at least one other sentient race.
  • Calliope and Caliborn have troll-like blood color variety, indicating trolls as a source race.  However, they have no horns - only human-like skulls - and their white-irised eyes are quite human as well.  Therefore, it isn’t hard to surmise that Gamzee combined a human and a troll; almost certainly a boy and a girl, to mirror the combining of them into an androgynous body (like he’s been doing with the likes of Tavrisprite), mirror normal m/f reproduction, and mirror the :o) and Do: mirthful messiahs that Gamzee once said were him all along.
  • The boy component is Karkat, hands down.  Caliborn is unbelievably similar to him, his perfect kismesis even:  Like Karkat, but worse in every way, incredibly powerful, and evil.  And Karkat’s listed position is even in the exact spot between his friends that Lime would have been on the spectrum; his blood and Lime-colored blood might have been no more than a gene-swap away in the first place!
  • Jade is a bit tricker a choice, with circumstantial evidence like the colors, or Calliope’s symbol’s main component being a tower that looks like Jade’s house surrounded by snakes (echidna), et cetera.  But it becomes incredibly clear by process of elimination:  Jade is the only plausible human girl Gamzee would have known and chosen, and no other human girl fits the symbolism well enough!
  • And finally, there’s the narrative text here that was addressed at Jade as she stared through the fourth wall at LE’s jacket:  ”But you don’t know it’s a coat. That would only invite more questions. You don’t know what it shields. Nor do you know whose shoulders it was meant to cover. If you knew that - if you even knew his name - you would understand terror no human ever has.”  But that’s strange, since “Caliborn” doesn’t do the trick!  So, if this name alone is supposed to inspire terror in Jade specifically…  Think about it for a moment.  Were Gamzee to create a Harley-Vantas ectochild, what do you suppose he’d make its last and/or middle names to fit? :D  Even if Jade doesn’t know LE’s true nature, from a name like that alone (with parts of Karkat and Jade’s names blatantly in it), I think Andrew could credibly claim that no human has ever understood the terror of having unexpectedly sired a child with a grumpy alien!

Am I right, or am I right?  :D

(Gamzee and Caliborn in the image arted up by my awesome friend doridachi!  Click here for a larger version of the gif.)  EDIT: I fixed the eyes I forgot to animate on the gif; the larger-version link will still link to the right one on all of them!

As cancersyndrome pointed out here, in the recent walkaround, Kurloz told Gamzee that their messiah awaits his servitude and TUTELAGE.

In other words, the first part of this theory is almost assuredly canon: Gamzee raised Caliborn and Calliope, likely too early for them to remember him.

What remains to be seen is their ectobiological components, which Gamzee was almost assuredly in a position to set.  If you read this theory and its linked follow-up addendums, the running supposition is that those components were most likely Jade Harley && Karkat Vantas && Abraxas, and optionally && Lil’ Cal or some other unknown component.

In case you still didn’t buy at least the first part of the theory, the recent update gives us this:

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Calliope happens to have owned Gamzee’s husktop.

(And I’ve seen this development has already caused this theory to make a few more rounds!)

Once again, the first part of this theory is assuredly canon, ie. Gamzee raising Calliope/Caliborn, a pair representing one who’s been invited to have her Rage destroyed and another who’s been invited to cause destruction through his Rage.  What remains to be seen is the second part:  whether Gamzee set their ectobiological components (which is likely), and if so, to what.

2012-11-16

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 I've been involved in some conversation regarding the possibility that Hussie's foreshadowing Jake getting possessed/manipulated by Lord English, possibly involving a severe Aspect inversion. A friend of mine brought up that Roxy referred to Jake's helmet as a "shitty brainwashing helmet," despite the fact that Roxy has no real reason to be suspicious of Skaianet tech, seeing as it's specifically designed to freak out the Condesce. How likely/dangerous do you suspect such an event would be?
Anonymous

Not that way, no.

But do keep in mind that we don’t know the method Lord English uses for immortality.  In fact, the one example we have from him is the curse he put on the Handmaid that was transferrable upon her death.

So - and I’ve mentioned this possibility before - it’s quite possible that if Jake defeats Lord English, Lord English would subsequently hijack his body.

Eg.:

uu: HE MAKES NO BONES ABOuT GANKING MY LOOK. 
uu: IT’S PATHETIC. 
uu: YOu DON’T JuST GO AND JACK A MAN’S SWAGGER. 
uu: THAT’S THE CARDINAL FuCKING RuLE OF BROS. RIGHT?

uu: PROBABLY SOME DAY.

uu: I’LL TEACH HIM A LESSON FOR THAT.

2012-10-28

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 bladekindeyewear:“ This is a theory I’ve had for some damn time: Gamzee obtained, raised, and locked in the ectobiological coordinates for Calliope/Caliborn, an ecto-child of Jade Harley, Karkat Vantas, and (optionally) also Lil’ Cal.FOLLOW-UP...

bladekindeyewear:

This is a theory I’ve had for some damn time:  Gamzee obtained, raised, and locked in the ectobiological coordinates for Calliope/Caliborn, an ecto-child of Jade Harley, Karkat Vantas, and (optionally) also Lil’ Cal.

FOLLOW-UP ADDENDUMS: (Lord English’s True Name), (Buckets and LE), (STEAK), (Echidna’s (Abraxas’s?) Bones)

Yes, this is a serious theory.  And it explains plenty:

EDIT:  Added MORE POINTS in smalltext! :D

  • His use of Aradia’s Timeboxes shows us where Gamzee is hiding on the meteor:  Its future!  Since it eventually ends up where Calliope and Caliborn are, Gamzee could have wound forward past its entry and exit of the alpha session, free to mess around in peace.
  • Wherever and whenever Gamzee is hiding, he has to burn three years to match the ages of everyone else.  Why not spend those three years raising a cute little skull monster baby who just happened to come down on a meteor?  Once the child could fend for itself, Gamzee could have simply rewound back to when the meteor entered the alpha session, joining the others at the same age.
  • Someone raised Calliope/Caliborn, alchemizing(?) and setting up a bunch of equipment that they clearly do not understand, calling them ‘jujus’.  (Separately from the official, timeloopy ‘jujus’.)  When you take the timeboxes into account, the voided-out book, and the boxfuls of special stardust the cherubs were left to eat, Gamzee is the clear likelihood for that someone.
  • Many of Lord English’s features have been explained in Caliborn, but one of the looming mysteries is why he has a tendency to HONK.  If Gamzee had raised him, this would be very clear!
  • A human/troll hybrid has the potential to be very alien, especially if one adds a corrupting element (the optional Cal) to the mix.  Of the human/troll hybrids possible, Karkat && Jade makes the most sense given their personalities, symbols, elements of clothing, quirks, and associated colors.  They are VERY similar to Karkat and Jade.  In fact, it makes so much sense that when UU gave us her first conversation, I had initially surmised that she was a future Jade/Karkat hybrid demi-troll!  (While it was eventually ruled out by her seemingly implying she was a troll, before the Cherub reveal, I still found it QUITE suspicious that the Karkat similarities were brought out in full force with her brother.)
  • ROMSPEC DISCLAIMER:  A Karkat && Jade ectochild is NO INDICATION that Karkat/Jade will be a final pairing.  In fact, it might mean the opposite, serving as the ‘resolution’ / ‘cashing-in’ of all the romantic foreshadowing between the two, and other odd coincidences like that BARK/KRAB/BRAKA code.
  • Why would Karkat and Jade be chosen?  Why, because of Gamzee, of course!  Do recall that someone locked in the ectobiological coordinates for John in his session, presumably one of the guardians.  If Gamzee serves as that someone for Calliope and Caliborn by getting into their session… why, perhaps while lurking around in the background and watching everyone pre-horrorstuck, Gamzee had observed Karkat warming up to Jade?  And perhaps, in his infinite wisdom whimsy, he decided it would be great if they had children?  Hm? :)
  • Caliborn is clearly a young Lord English.  Calliope is rather set to make an incredible sacrifice with her death, possibly facilitating the creation of all of Paradox Space.  As the individual responsible for the existence and nature of these two(ish) individuals, Gamzee would cement his position as the most important character in Homestuck!
  • EDIT: ADDITIONAL POINTS:
  • Boltstuck added some wonderful evidence:  ”We know that Andrew likes to borrow from his past works;  Gamzee has already shown parallels to “Whistles: The Starlight Calliope” and there’s a good chance of Caliborn/Calliope’s origins being another call-back. — The comic centers around the titular Whistles, an innocent and well-meaning clown who’s unfailingly loyal to his evil Master and goes into brutal, violent rages when said Master is hurt or threatened.  His Master is “unkillable” in that every time he is slain, a new version of him is spawned.  Much like with Lord English’s multiple incarnations.  Toward the end of the story, Whistles’s two fellow clowns find a way to prevent the respawning - but not before an infant version of the Master survives the attack and convinces Whistles to adopt and care for it.
  • According to UU: “UU: my species has never even had a home planet.”  Never?! Life and sentience require rich diversity and millions of years to evolve.  Cherubs couldn’t have evolved in the void, with nothing… therefore, it’s most likely that they had a shortcut.  Andrew is implying that Cherubs were ectobiologized as a race, their initial seed population growing to spread throughout the universe.  And thus, they almost certainly had an external DNA source from at least one other sentient race.
  • Calliope and Caliborn have troll-like blood color variety, indicating trolls as a source race.  However, they have no horns - only human-like skulls - and their white-irised eyes are quite human as well.  Therefore, it isn’t hard to surmise that Gamzee combined a human and a troll; almost certainly a boy and a girl, to mirror the combining of them into an androgynous body (like he’s been doing with the likes of Tavrisprite), mirror normal m/f reproduction, and mirror the :o) and Do: mirthful messiahs that Gamzee once said were him all along.
  • The boy component is Karkat, hands down.  Caliborn is unbelievably similar to him, his perfect kismesis even:  Like Karkat, but worse in every way, incredibly powerful, and evil.  And Karkat’s listed position is even in the exact spot between his friends that Lime would have been on the spectrum; his blood and Lime-colored blood might have been no more than a gene-swap away in the first place!
  • Jade is a bit tricker a choice, with circumstantial evidence like the colors, or Calliope’s symbol’s main component being a tower that looks like Jade’s house surrounded by snakes (echidna), et cetera.  But it becomes incredibly clear by process of elimination:  Jade is the only plausible human girl Gamzee would have known and chosen, and no other human girl fits the symbolism well enough!
  • And finally, there’s the narrative text here that was addressed at Jade as she stared through the fourth wall at LE’s jacket:  ”But you don’t know it’s a coat. That would only invite more questions. You don’t know what it shields. Nor do you know whose shoulders it was meant to cover. If you knew that - if you even knew his name - you would understand terror no human ever has.”  But that’s strange, since “Caliborn” doesn’t do the trick!  So, if this name alone is supposed to inspire terror in Jade specifically…  Think about it for a moment.  Were Gamzee to create a Harley-Vantas ectochild, what do you suppose he’d make its last and/or middle names to fit? :D  Even if Jade doesn’t know LE’s true nature, from a name like that alone (with parts of Karkat and Jade’s names blatantly in it), I think Andrew could credibly claim that no human has ever understood the terror of having unexpectedly sired a child with a grumpy alien!

Am I right, or am I right?  :D

(Gamzee and Caliborn in the image arted up by my awesome friend doridachi!  Click here for a larger version of the gif.)  EDIT: I fixed the eyes I forgot to animate on the gif; the larger-version link will still link to the right one on all of them!

As cancersyndrome pointed out here, in the recent walkaround, Kurloz told Gamzee that their messiah awaits his servitude and TUTELAGE.

In other words, the first part of this theory is almost assuredly canon: Gamzee raised Caliborn and Calliope, likely too early for them to remember him.

What remains to be seen is their ectobiological components, which Gamzee was almost assuredly in a position to set.  If you read this theory and its linked follow-up addendums, the running supposition is that those components were most likely Jade Harley && Karkat Vantas && Abraxas, and optionally && Lil’ Cal or some other unknown component.

2012-9-26

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 Echidna’s (Abraxas’s?) Bones

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I think Echidna Abraxas, the Space Hope denizen, is another one of the ectobiological components of Calliope and Caliborn.  (As per that Gamzee Ectobiology Theory.)

  • Her bones are green, toothy, and even have cherub cheekbones.
  • Calliope has a serpentine tongue, and Caliborn’s jaws can tear off limbs.
  • Echidna is complicit in LE’s entry into sessions, and we don’t know why.

And to top it all off, she happens to be the “mother of all monsters”.

EDIT: Anonymous asked you:

Pretty sure those are Abraxas’ bones and not Echidna’s; the skull is beaklike and Echidna has been shown with a humanlike face.
Hm, good point…  To be fair, Hope does have ties to them, too…

2012-8-30
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 GUYS, **STEAK**

GUYS GUYS

caliborn and calliope’s room

is FULL OF STEAK

that they EAT

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STEAK

THINK ABOUT IT

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STEAK!

DOG!!!

I mean, REMEMBER THIS THEORY?!?!

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

2012-8-30

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 IT KEEPS HAPPENING!!! I have a little more for you guys.(Original theorypost link, if you don’t know what the image is about.)(Subsequent post on Lord English’s true name.) (And one on STEAK!)-= BUCKETS =-Okay, so you know how the Condesce...

IT KEEPS HAPPENING!!!  I have a little more for you guys.

(Original theorypost link, if you don’t know what the image is about.)

(Subsequent post on Lord English’s true name.)  (And one on STEAK!)

-= BUCKETS =-

Okay, so you know how the Condesce instituted a reproduction ban?

TT: She began instituting these crazy laws. First of all, people weren’t allowed to reproduce. She found our usual method of procreation revolting, and anyone who engaged in it was punished by death. 
TT: But she still needed an ongoing population of subjects to abuse, so to propagate the race she set up this weird system. 
TT: At random intervals every citizen would be required to supply their genetic material to drones. That DNA would be collected and combined in some way.

Now, the idea has been going around in the IDE/Theory thread that this wasn’t necessarily the Condesce’s opinion/will alone, but that of Lord English.  Meenah expressed disappointment at Serket’s story skipping the “steamy” parts about her spidery love affair with the Summoner, or at least Aranea insinuated it.  English, however, does find the physical acts that lead to normal human procreation abhorrent.  It would make sense for him to have them banned.

In fact, there’s a possibility that it could have carried over to Alternia, as well.  The possibly contact-minimizing bucket system could have been instituted via the combined efforts of Scratch and English, to suit the demon’s delicate sensibilities.  Pre-Scratch trolls may have still used a Mother Grub system, but the whole affair might have been slightly more personal.

It’s a plausible theory.  But that’s not the reason I’m posting.  The reason is because I remembered this:

TT: Many years later, long after the original donors had died, clones would be spawned from their DNA. So no one would ever be able to know who their “parents” were, or be able to trace their lineage. 

Keeping people from knowing who their parents were.

KEEPING PEOPLE FROM KNOWING WHO THEIR PARENTS WERE!!!

I’ve already joked that Caliborn is going to make the Jane face when he sees who the ectobiology monitors are locked in on (Karkat, Jade, and possibly Lil’ Cal), during his session.  What if he found the revelation of who his ectobiological components were SO DISGUSTING that as Lord English, he kept entire races from tracing their lineage?!??

(And if you ask?  Yes, yes I am laughing my ass off.)

2012-8-26

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 I have a new, important, and hilarious point on this theory!(Original theorypost link, if you don’t know what the image is about.)(EDIT: An important followup theory on BUCKETS can be seen here! EDIT: Also, STEAK!)LORD ENGLISH’S TRUE NAMEAlright…...

I have a new, important, and hilarious point on this theory!

(Original theorypost link, if you don’t know what the image is about.)

(EDIT: An important followup theory on BUCKETS can be seen here! EDIT: Also, STEAK!)

LORD ENGLISH’S TRUE NAME

Alright… in my edits to the original theorypost, I brought up this seemingly-absurd point:

And finally, there’s the narrative text here that was addressed at Jade as she stared through the fourth wall at LE’s jacket:  ”But you don’t know it’s a coat. That would only invite more questions. You don’t know what it shields. Nor do you know whose shoulders it was meant to cover. If you knew that - if you even knew his name - you would understand terror no human ever has.”  But that’s strange, since “Caliborn” doesn’t do the trick!  So, if this name alone is supposed to inspire terror in Jade specifically…  Think about it for a moment.  Were Gamzee to create a Harley-Vantas ectochild, what do you suppose he’d make its last and/or middle names to fit? :D  Even if Jade doesn’t know LE’s true nature, from a name like that alone (with parts of Karkat and Jade’s names blatantly in it), I think Andrew could credibly claim that no human has ever understood the terror of having unexpectedly sired a child with a grumpy alien!

Though this was a plausible explanation for the text, it just… sounded too stupid to me.

Let’s look at the full quote from the page again:

You size up the arcane contraption. The blue flicker of the coat’s lining is arresting. But you don’t know it’s a coat. That would only invite more questions. You don’t know what it shields. Nor do you know whose shoulders it was meant to cover. If you knew that - if you even knew his name - you would understand terror no human ever has. 

So… if Caliborn is an ectochild of Jade and Karkat, he would have to have a name that instantly told that fact unequivocally to Jade, in order to inspire “terror no human” has ever understood.

But what would that even look like?  Caliborn Jade Karkat?  Caliborn Harley-Vantas?  They all sound so silly and terrible!

And then… then, I had a conversation with shoyslayer over Skype.

  • blastyoboots: I can’t think of a name that does the job I implied that doesn’t sound batshit retarded, though :)
  • blastyoboots: I mean, what, Caliborn Harley-Vantas?
  • ShoySlayer: Then again
  • ShoySlayer: Hussie said ALL fantrolls are canon
  • ShoySlayer: Even the shitt5y ones
  • ShoySlayer: *shitty
  • ShoySlayer: Maybe it was foreshadowing he was gonna pull a shitty plot twist
  • blastyoboots: PFF YOU’RE RIGHT
  • blastyoboots: oh my god it sounds like the shittiest self-insert fantroll name

It sounds like a shitty self-insert fantroll’s name.

It sounds like a shitty self-insert fantroll’s name.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A SHITTY SELF-INSERT FANTROLL’S NAME!!!!

And who do we know who has been constantly joked about by the fandom as a stereotypical mary-sue fantroll?!

“hello this is my fantroll Calliope Harley-Vantas she is jade and akrkat’s son and she has super special lime blood and is REALLY SWEET AND KIND even though her race is violent and she is one of the most powerful special classes of her own called a master class and she has her own session and”

Lord English, the GREATEST ENEMY IN HOMESTUCK, would have a name like the most absolutely retarded, terrible fanmade mary-sue human/troll hybrid ever imaginable!!!

CALIBORN HARLEY-VANTAS

It’s terrifying.  It’s horrible.  It’s perfect, and exactly what Andrew would pull.

2012-8-26

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 This is a theory I’ve had for some damn time: Gamzee obtained, raised, and locked in the ectobiological coordinates for Calliope/Caliborn, an ecto-child of Jade Harley, Karkat Vantas, and (optionally) also Lil’ Cal.FOLLOW-UP ADDENDUMS: (Lord...

This is a theory I’ve had for some damn time:  Gamzee obtained, raised, and locked in the ectobiological coordinates for Calliope/Caliborn, an ecto-child of Jade Harley, Karkat Vantas, and (optionally) also Lil’ Cal.

FOLLOW-UP ADDENDUMS: (Lord English’s True Name), (Buckets and LE), (STEAK), (Echidna’s (Abraxas’s?) Bones)

Yes, this is a serious theory.  And it explains plenty:

EDIT:  Added MORE POINTS in smalltext! :D

  • His use of Aradia’s Timeboxes shows us where Gamzee is hiding on the meteor:  Its future!  Since it eventually ends up where Calliope and Caliborn are, Gamzee could have wound forward past its entry and exit of the alpha session, free to mess around in peace.
  • Wherever and whenever Gamzee is hiding, he has to burn three years to match the ages of everyone else.  Why not spend those three years raising a cute little skull monster baby who just happened to come down on a meteor?  Once the child could fend for itself, Gamzee could have simply rewound back to when the meteor entered the alpha session, joining the others at the same age.
  • Someone raised Calliope/Caliborn, alchemizing(?) and setting up a bunch of equipment that they clearly do not understand, calling them ‘jujus’.  (Separately from the official, timeloopy 'jujus’.)  When you take the timeboxes into account, the voided-out book, and the boxfuls of special stardust the cherubs were left to eat, Gamzee is the clear likelihood for that someone.
  • Many of Lord English’s features have been explained in Caliborn, but one of the looming mysteries is why he has a tendency to HONK.  If Gamzee had raised him, this would be very clear!
  • A human/troll hybrid has the potential to be very alien, especially if one adds a corrupting element (the optional Cal) to the mix.  Of the human/troll hybrids possible, Karkat && Jade makes the most sense given their personalities, symbols, elements of clothing, quirks, and associated colors.  They are VERY similar to Karkat and Jade.  In fact, it makes so much sense that when UU gave us her first conversation, I had initially surmised that she was a future Jade/Karkat hybrid demi-troll!  (While it was eventually ruled out by her seemingly implying she was a troll, before the Cherub reveal, I still found it QUITE suspicious that the Karkat similarities were brought out in full force with her brother.)
  • ROMSPEC DISCLAIMER:  A Karkat && Jade ectochild is NO INDICATION that Karkat/Jade will be a final pairing.  In fact, it might mean the opposite, serving as the 'resolution’ / 'cashing-in’ of all the romantic foreshadowing between the two, and other odd coincidences like that BARK/KRAB/BRAKA code.
  • Why would Karkat and Jade be chosen?  Why, because of Gamzee, of course!  Do recall that someone locked in the ectobiological coordinates for John in his session, presumably one of the guardians.  If Gamzee serves as that someone for Calliope and Caliborn by getting into their session… why, perhaps while lurking around in the background and watching everyone pre-horrorstuck, Gamzee had observed Karkat warming up to Jade?  And perhaps, in his infinite wisdom whimsy, he decided it would be great if they had children?  Hm? :)
  • Caliborn is clearly a young Lord English.  Calliope is rather set to make an incredible sacrifice with her death, possibly facilitating the creation of all of Paradox Space.  As the individual responsible for the existence and nature of these two(ish) individuals, Gamzee would cement his position as the most important character in Homestuck!
  • EDIT: ADDITIONAL POINTS:
  • Boltstuck added some wonderful evidence:  "We know that Andrew likes to borrow from his past works;  Gamzee has already shown parallels to “Whistles: The Starlight Calliope” and there’s a good chance of Caliborn/Calliope’s origins being another call-back. — The comic centers around the titular Whistles, an innocent and well-meaning clown who’s unfailingly loyal to his evil Master and goes into brutal, violent rages when said Master is hurt or threatened.  His Master is “unkillable” in that every time he is slain, a new version of him is spawned.  Much like with Lord English’s multiple incarnations.  Toward the end of the story, Whistles’s two fellow clowns find a way to prevent the respawning - but not before an infant version of the Master survives the attack and convinces Whistles to adopt and care for it.
  • According to UU: ”UU: my species has never even had a home planet.“  Never?! Life and sentience require rich diversity and millions of years to evolve.  Cherubs couldn’t have evolved in the void, with nothing… therefore, it’s most likely that they had a shortcut.  Andrew is implying that Cherubs were ectobiologized as a race, their initial seed population growing to spread throughout the universe.  And thus, they almost certainly had an external DNA source from at least one other sentient race.
  • Calliope and Caliborn have troll-like blood color variety, indicating trolls as a source race.  However, they have no horns - only human-like skulls - and their white-irised eyes are quite human as well.  Therefore, it isn’t hard to surmise that Gamzee combined a human and a troll; almost certainly a boy and a girl, to mirror the combining of them into an androgynous body (like he’s been doing with the likes of Tavrisprite), mirror normal m/f reproduction, and mirror the :o) and Do: mirthful messiahs that Gamzee once said were him all along.
  • The boy component is Karkat, hands down.  Caliborn is unbelievably similar to him, his perfect kismesis even:  Like Karkat, but worse in every way, incredibly powerful, and evil.  And Karkat’s listed position is even in the exact spot between his friends that Lime would have been on the spectrum; his blood and Lime-colored blood might have been no more than a gene-swap away in the first place!
  • Jade is a bit tricker a choice, with circumstantial evidence like the colors, or Calliope’s symbol’s main component being a tower that looks like Jade’s house surrounded by snakes (echidna), et cetera.  But it becomes incredibly clear by process of elimination:  Jade is the only plausible human girl Gamzee would have known and chosen, and no other human girl fits the symbolism well enough!
  • And finally, there’s the narrative text here that was addressed at Jade as she stared through the fourth wall at LE’s jacket:  "But you don’t know it’s a coat. That would only invite more questions. You don’t know what it shields. Nor do you know whose shoulders it was meant to cover. If you knew that - if you even knew his name - you would understand terror no human ever has.”  But that’s strange, since “Caliborn” doesn’t do the trick!  So, if this name alone is supposed to inspire terror in Jade specifically…  Think about it for a moment.  Were Gamzee to create a Harley-Vantas ectochild, what do you suppose he’d make its last and/or middle names to fit? :D  Even if Jade doesn’t know LE’s true nature, from a name like that alone (with parts of Karkat and Jade’s names blatantly in it), I think Andrew could credibly claim that no human has ever understood the terror of having unexpectedly sired a child with a grumpy alien!

Am I right, or am I right?  :D

(Gamzee and Caliborn in the image arted up by my awesome friend doridachi!  Click here for a larger version of the gif.)  EDIT: I fixed the eyes I forgot to animate on the gif; the larger-version link will still link to the right one on all of them!

2012-8-24

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 So Ive Solved Homestuck. (Contains Problem Sleuth Spoilers)

jumpingjacktrash:

variablejabberwocky:

thegirlwiththebaddragontattoo:

beerinabox:

Well at least a large chunk of it, that being Lord English, and what is in store for Calliope and uu.

So as we know Calliope is the Muse of Space, and unfortunately we don’t quite understand what that entails for her yet but what we do know is that its the most passive. With Hussie constantly making references to his past works, I got thinking of ways any of this could tie into anything he’s done before. Then it hit me, the most passive character Hussie has ever made is Pickle Inspector from Problem Sleuth.

Now, if you havent read problem sleuth yet let me say this much:

a) Go read it. 

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And pay attention to this guy here.

I’ll wait here for you.

Because within the context of the story, Pickle Inspector has a very high ‘game stat’ that exists within the story that allows him to do amazing things within a dream world, its called imagination (yes that is the actual stat). Now at one point in the story Pickle Inspector splits up into six separate PIs, four of which go off to pull off time shenanigans (that will become tremendously important later in this explanation.) but the other two I’d like to focus on right now.

One of the first thing PI did with his multiple selves was ascend to godhood.

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 And so became GodHead PI (where daves chumhandle came from), though the only thing he could really do as a God was muse (or fondly regard) his creation, the next thing PI did was TAKE FORM OF AN EVEN MORE LOATHSOME BEAST

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Now here we see an example of a single character becoming a god, and then transforming into a horrible monster…. you see where Im going with this.

A musing god, and a loathsome beast. Bear with me here, I propose that Calliopes dead dream self (seeing as PI only has this kind of power in the dream world) will be able to go God Tier, and so become Muse of Space, what will that allow her to do? Well, the other Pickle Inspectors that I mentioned earlier who went off to mess around with time? Well they returned to Godhead PI later in the story, who makes a request of them. That they split up and become all matter in the universe.

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What I think a muse does, is just this (more or less). Its fairly obvious that Calliope is representative of the fandom, though what if she literally is the fandom. What if Calliope is us, as god tiered she splits into a thousands of points, thousands of readers- we /literally/ are Calliope.

Which brings us to one of the biggest mysteries in the Homestuck story.

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Lord English.

What does he want, the main villain- what are his goals? What does he hope to gain from all of this?

Lets assume that uu is undoubtedly LE (If not thats one hell of a read herring ) in which case his motives have been clear from some of his first pesterlogs, he wants to kill Calliope. Think about Homestuck, and the reality its set in, what other motives could an all powerful demon have? Universal domination, possible, but unlikely seeing how easily a universe can be destroyed. Destruction of time and space? Maybe, but that seems a little useless for Hussies writing. No.

What I propose is that, All of this, all of Lord Englishes moves are to kill us. The fandom, because we are Calliope.

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Hes already gotten one of us. (Lets face it, we’re as much a part of this as he is.)

Oh and one more little thing about the connection between UU uu and PI.

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>GPI: Fondly regard crustacean

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OMG

I…buy into a lot of this theory

maybe not all of it will be correct but this seems legitimatly possible

O.O holy shit

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Okay, THIS to everything here, forever.  Holy shit.

She has that spiral in her dreams.

“Muse of Space” pretty much directly translates to “Fondly regard Creation”.

She’s told by uu “YOuR DEATH.  WILL BE.  YOUR GREATEST ACCOMPLISHMENT.”, which kind of makes sense if she’s somehow responsible for the perpetuation of everything ever in her death.

The whole “Lord English killing the fandom” thing is more metaphorical than anything else, but it does still have a nice whole “the fandom is responsible for reality” vibe.

(When the post connected crustacean and her Karkat-symbol connections, I thought he was tying together that spiral on GPI’s forehead with that same symbol and everything, which makes a lot more heavy and important a thematic connection!)

It’s not going to be LITERALLY what GPI did.  Keep that in mind.  While she’s not going to literally “be” every particle that ever exists like GPI was… it could definitely be something to the same thematic effect.

But, yeah, this fucking post ties it all together.  I knew she’d do something important in her death or what have you, perhaps something extremely broad, but I didn’t feel the narrative hints and basis for the pure scope until all these GPI connections.  She’s somehow going to be responsible for existence itself, or the perpetuation thereof.  It’s right there in our faces!  You, my friend, have cracked the code.  :)

She ascends to passive godhood (not god-tier, god as in the all-pervasive God), and he descends to active demonhood.  He’s a mob boss, and she’s full of imagination.  Through his eventual creation, Lord English embodies destruction, and through her eventual destruction, Calliope will embody creation.

(EDIT:  Though Kanaya will likely be the one to steal the “sew up reality” part of the callback.)

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 starcrossed-sky asked you:

Re: Dirk’s info: When in doubt, blame uu? He’s shown quite clearly that he utterly disregards temporal causality shit. And I could easy see him shooting off to Dirk about how “YOu AND ALL YOuR FRIENDS WILL DIE” and then Dirk takes that info and turns it into not-so.

combobulatedprognosticator asked you:

I can see three options for how Dirk knew: a) Intelligence from AR. AR knew about Jake because of the bunny. He might know about Roxy because her GPS stopped moving again. b) Pre-planning with UU. UU presumably saw the first half of this ahead of time (since uu is taunting her) and could plan with Dirk/AR for the best way to resolve it. c) Totally winging it with help from AR’s premade smooch plan.

Thanks!  All of this sounds rather plausible.  I’m hoping to see a line from Dirk on it all, but we probably won’t get one until after the next intermission.

2012-7-9

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stereoscopicsnow asked you:

any thoughts on the character development of AR?

He’s been getting weirder and weirder as the plot’s progressed.  The session’s going to provide for even more changes.

As I just said, he is indeed a plausible origin for Doc Scratch.  As uu has been shown to relate to Dirk explicitly, it’d make sense for him to keep a piece of “DS” around when he goes off to prowl the multiverse.

…HAH!  I just realized something:

TT: Do you want me to draw some? 
uu: NO. 
uu: YOu ARE AN IMPOSTOR. 
uu: AN ARTIFICIAL BLOODLESS HEMOTYPING FRAuD.
TT: What? 
uu: THERE IS NO HEART THAT BEATS INSIDE YOu. WITH PASSION FOR ILLuSTRATED DEBAuCHERY. AS CAN BE SAID OF TRuE MEN. 
uu: YOu ARE FALSE AS THE RED YOu PAINT YOuR WORDS WITH. YOUR LIES ARE RED AS THE HERRING YOu REPRESENT. 

So consider:  If uu were to get his hands on a copy of AR, and could make changes to him, what would he change?

Why, he’d make him type in white and always tell the truth!

2012-7-9

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 mycomputerismadeofbees:“ bladekindeyewear:“ zoquo:“ a—symmetrical:“ what are binders”what is people drawing characters how they want to”“what are binders”???So, what you’re saying is that Lord English has massive tits?…carry on.EDIT: no...

mycomputerismadeofbees:

bladekindeyewear:

zoquo:

a—symmetrical:

what are binders

what is people drawing characters how they want to

“what are binders”???

So, what you’re saying is that Lord English has massive tits?

…carry on.

EDIT: no wonder uu finds feel-copping uncomfortable

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headcanon accepted

2012-7-2

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 zoquo:“ a—symmetrical:“ what are binders”what is people drawing characters how they want to”“what are binders”???So, what you’re saying is that Lord English has massive tits?…carry on.EDIT: no wonder uu finds feel-copping uncomfortable

zoquo:

a—symmetrical:

what are binders

what is people drawing characters how they want to

“what are binders”???

So, what you’re saying is that Lord English has massive tits?

…carry on.

EDIT: no wonder uu finds feel-copping uncomfortable

(note from the tags: I guess the suspenders keep him decent)

2012-7-1

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homefucked:

ammodramus:

steamlord313:

xzazupsilon:

Remember Hussie’s Formspring?

Yeah.

welp

SCREAMS AND CRIES AND FLAILS AND OLLIES INTO THE NIGHT

A YOUNG MAN STANDS ALONE IN HIS BEDROOM

IT STARTED WITH ONLY JOHN AND IT’S GOING TO END THE SAME WAY

Missed this callback.  Not that it means anything plotways, but well played, Hussie.  :)

2012-6-26

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 UU and uu prediction

ahpoordogsbody:

combobulatedprognosticator:

Been thinking a lot about how this whole UU and uu deadly combat thing. It seems sadly inevitable that Calliope is going to lose this fight, but I’ve been trying to think of a reasonable scenario for how it’ll all go down. Here’s what I think:

1) uu wakes up and decides not to switch back. He cuts/gnaws off his own leg to escape his ankle chain. (Lord English is missing the same leg uu has his chain on)

2) Now with access to both computers, he gets himself into the session by being his own server player.

3) He finds his quest bed and immobilizes himself on it.

4) He talks to Roxy and tricks her waking up Calliope by saying her name. (In the chess game UU and uu played, uu won by encouraging his opponent to cheat, and then using it to his advantage. This scared Calliope into cheating in real life by telling Roxy her name)

5) Since Calliope is now awake, uu wakes up in his dreamself. He flies to planet, finds his quest bed, and stabs Calliope, who is still immobilized on it. uu goes God-tier, and Calliope, who has no dreamself left, dies.

6) uu would now have God-tier Space powers, but he’s still no Lord English. So what does he do? He *pretends to be UU to her friends* (Disguising the male and the female as each other, just like in the chess game!). He writes in green (Calliope said she wouldn’t write in green until she “won” against her brother. uu has threatened to paint his words with her blood color) and tells the kids that he’s Calliope and that she won (Her friends will be happy, as predicted, because they don’t know the truth). He then tricks them into doing things in their session that helps him gain power and hurts them.

yes yes yes this is perfect

the only possible objections relate to uu going god-tier: 1) it involves becoming your dreamself, and uu’s dreamself isn’t missing a leg; 2) if lord english were god-tier, he’d be risking a just death. aranea said he’d “discovered the secret to indestructibility”, so i doubt it’s that simple.

Some of the details are sketchy, but they’re replaceable.  The concept of uu successfully(?!) pretending to be UU, to mirror the swapped king and queen, is a fantastic one.

(That, or UU will be Lord English instead of uu?  It almost feels like one of those two has to happen, to mirror the chess gambit.)

2012-6-23

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 undyingumbrage

undyingumbrage

undyingumbrage

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I feel like such an idiot for not getting that sooner.

2012-6-21

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 gordonecker:

Re: The meteor getting there.

I’m guessing that, in addition to knocking the B2 frog temple asteroid through a portal to prehistoric B2 Earth, the B2 session’s asteroid billiards will also send the A2 session’s veil asteroid lab hurtling back into the Furthest Ring. Eventually, the asteroid enters the Ophiuchus session, where it goes through a Reckoning portal and lands on Calliope’s planet.

Very nice.  :D  The important bit, from Rose:

ROSE: And it’s not that there were no meteors whatsoever. 
ROSE: Just the vast majority of the destructive onslaught never showed up. 
ROSE: But delivering the temple to the site of the forge is still integral to jumpstarting the session. 
ROSE: That meteor however could have been propelled through a portal by any means, not just via the reckoning. 

2012-6-21

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 turntechsalamander said:

jfc gamzee. you really are going to end up being the most important character in homestuck, aren’t you.

Well, it might be Lil’ Cal instead.  He was watching in Gamzee’s lap at 0:00, too!

I mean, think about it:  Imagine if Lil’ Cal ends up the key to saving everyone and ultimate victory.  The lynchpin, the epitome of all that is good and just in Paradox Space.  Wow!

theneonwerewolf said:

I thought the VAST HONKS came from the HONK code Gamzee wrote in a doomed timeline.

Lord English doesn’t give the slightest fuck about the code that was used to create Doc Scratch.  It’s not what made him HONK on entry.

Something else did that, and we have no clue what it is.

2012-6-21

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 acaranalogy:

bladekindeyewear:

Or, it could be A1, the pre-Scratch trolls’ universe long after their race has been destroyed by Sgrub, pelted to death by meteors ages ago and their sun swelling as its life begins to end.

Ailious Slick dies 413 years post-Reckoning when Slick shoots Sn0wman, circumstantially simultaneous with Bilious Slick’s demise at the hands of Jack Noir. Calliope’s world can’t be Arcadia (or whatever their planet was called) any more than it can be Earth.

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I wouldn’t say that definitively, acaranalogy.

WV was exactly 413 years in the future from the Reckoning in 2009, perhaps plus or minus a few days at most.  Then they saw Red Miles; but the post-Scratch universe only had Red Miles appear about two and a half years later, in 2011 + 413.  So, there’s a discrepancy; one that happens to coincide with the time it takes to traverse a void window between their two sessions.

So, why can’t A1 and A2 have a larger discrepancy?  A substantially larger discrepancy?

A1 is still technically an option.  It’s plausibility or likelihood is up for debate, but you can’t rule it out.

2012-6-21

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 draayder:

pretty sure this is in ~5 billion years in the future earth in the alpha session

it looks like either a desert or what would come about from the sun going red giant on a planet and evaporating the all the water which is basically a desert

No, it’s not alpha session’s Earth.  That entire timeline’s universe will have been destroyed by Jack’s Red Miles imminently.  Both the Sun and Earth destroyed, and the fabric of space-time around it soon after.

However:

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It could be another instance entirely, also within their universe.  Doomed, perhaps, as Kanaya insinuated the bad luck sourced thereof.  Or, it could be A1, the pre-Scratch trolls’ universe long after their race has been destroyed by Sgrub, pelted to death by meteors ages ago and their sun swelling as its life begins to end.

at some even later point the cherub(s) took up residence/were forced to live there there a la the exiles

What makes you think they weren’t created there?

It is an ectobiology lab, after all.  And somebody managed to make all those chains and devices for them, so old and purpose/making so unfathomable to the pair of cherubs that they’ve plastered it all with the label “juju magic” and used it their whole lives without explanation.

As I’ve said before, maybe this is what happens when you try to ectobiologize human/troll hybrids.  (And if Gamzee were the culprit (as the left behind tome insinuates), he also has Cal, a valid DNA source.)

2012-6-21

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 space-cadet-omoly:

“Many of the stories involve Callie, and all of them involve heavy themes of romance. Particularly the other three quadrants which are completely alien to you, and therefore especially titillating.

 So, in addition to Matespritship there are at least two other forms of troll romance that cherubs do not naturally perform.  Since uu later mentions caliginous feelings people jumped to the conclusion that one quadrant they do understand is kismesissitude. However, there is one other quadrant that is caliginous: Auspisticism .

That’s right, the ashen quadrant. The quadrant everyone always forgets about, the quadrant no one writes fanfictions for. That’s the only form of romance cherubs have.  It’s a little different from the troll version (and not platonic, obviously) but it’s close enough that cherubs are able to naturally understand it.

Maaaaaybe?  I guess I can't definitively refute you, but I think it’s pretty clear they meant kismessitude, and it’s the only option that makes any workable sort of sense:

UU: we are not a social race. we generally will not ever encoUnter another of oUr kind, Unless it is time to mate. 
UU: and when that time comes, oUr coUrtship is nothing like it is for hUmans. 
UU: it is highly confrontational and violent. 
TG: sounds so lonely 
TG: plus w/ hecks of tricky sex 
UU: it is lonely. 
UU: bUt that is in oUr natUre, to be alone. jUst as it is to find attraction throUgh contempt. 

Unless you’re saying that their ashen quadrants are reproductively necessary as opposed to trolls, and that three cherubs have to meet for any sort of courtship??  Because that doesn’t make much sense at all.

Cherubs can’t have straight up kismesissitudes because even though they have hate based romantic feelings a big part of that relationship involves not murdering the other person. Two cherubs who hate each other would never not murder one another under normal circumstances. They need a third party to come between them and mediate so they can stay calm/alive long enough to mate. This is the only way they can reproduce.

Yeah, not buying this theory.  UU never expressed any desire to kill uu until it was absolutely necessary, and while uu sometimes accused her sister of harboring romantic hatred for him, he has continually treated his own murderous inclinations as platonic hatred.  (Not that it isn’t romantic hatred in actuality, or doesn’t have that underlying it.  We can’t tell.)

Furthermore, who says the relationship doesn’t involve murdering the other person, for cherubs?  Cherubs might eat their mates, for instance.  Just as an example.

I spend to much time thinking about alien romance.

Never.  :)

2012-6-21

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Yep.  The cherubs’ meteor is the same one.  Hence Rose’s tome in there, for example.

(You probably already knew that; I just had to cross reference the images directly to make sure.)

2012-6-21

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space-cadet-omoly:

kyleehenke:

ok ok so I know I’m probably way late to the party on these realizations but

in the light of recent updates, the colors of the session logos are about a billion times more unnerving…

Welp, that’s unsettling.

welp indeed

2012-6-21

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 givenclarity:

docezio:

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ok so everyone is freaking out over this all ‘OMG IT MUST BE LORD ENGLISH’S GUN’

but what if

it’s literally

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new headcanon accepted until it is jossed in the next update

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awetjak;l2k wait what if this is why he can’t draw

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PRECIOUS

2012-6-20

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 popcornmassacre:

little did we all know that Calliope’s JuJu is an embarrassing pICTURE OF SPONGEBOB AT THE CHRISTMAS PARTY

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2012-6-20

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 ahpoordogsbody:

dumbpointyanimeshades:

buttpilgrim:

mclovenasty:

WOW I must be a nerd.

When I see this picture:

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I dont think of people merging and stuff…

I think of when a black hole feeds off a star.

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So uh… make of that theory what you will.

This gives more credibility to the theory of Roxy creating the pink equivalent of a black hole

I FUCKING CALLED IT

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this might also tie into “The moon’s an arrant thief, and her pale fire she snatches from the sun.”

Augh, there’s your Vriska, Thief of Light thingy again, dogsbody.  ¬_¬"

2012-6-19

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youtu.be/zDfXMQyUwU4

 From an ask to imreadingthishomestuckthing:

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To the left is a drawing of nothing in particular. Nothing you understand, at least. This is a symbol which has haunted your visions for as long as you can remember.

If uu were to consume some of the Green Sun like this, it’d explain his space powers, I suppose.

(Damn are his anons/askers rich spec sources.)

2012-6019

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 bionicpunch asked you:
It’s interesting to note that the chain is attached to uu’s left leg, but LE gets his right leg as the peg leg. I think that just leads more credence to the theory that UU will have to saw his leg off when he wins the game.

About that: I wanted to note how the chains probably work, in case it isn’t obvious.

See how there isn’t quite as much steak and debris just on the far left side of the room where UU’s computer is?

Basically, here’s how their system’d work:  They’re in the same body.  Each of them has their symbol on a chain.  When UU wants to go to sleep, she goes over to the right and fits her Caduceus symbol chain onto her other leg, which only she can unlock.  Then she sleeps, uu wakes up in their shared body, and he can somehow unlock the U symbol chain, giving him access to the right side of the room but not quite all of Calliope’s side.  When he wants to sleep, he clamps the U chain back on, and UU wakes up and unlocks the Caduceus one.  Make sense?

If Roxy were to tell uu his sister’s name, waking her up instantly… well, uu wouldn’t have affixed his chain yet, right?  UU would be free!  And then she could make some broader, more drastic moves before chaining back up to seal his movements when she has to sleep again.  Quite a rule broken, and quite the temporary advantage conferred upon the sister.

Of course, we already know how uu manages to bypass the restriction eventually.  (Saw-style.)

2012-6-19

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