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theories

I have a theory, from that whole “he who will drop it while it’s hot while the pimp’s in the crib” thing. People suggest dave will be the one to defeat LE; sure, that’s prolly true, and I say it’s because he won’t be defeating LE, he’ll be stopping him from ever existing. I’m gonna propose that LE can’t be beaten, so the only way to stop him, is to stop him from ever being, as this picture seems to suggest to me. So the motherfucker’s gonna drop it like it’s hot while the pimp’s still in his crib. Ya gets it?

Oh SHIT.

AWWWWFUCK

DAVE DO THE TIMEY SHIT, DO IT

yes, good.

ONLY THE HERO OF TIME

CAN DEFEAT THE OTHER HERO OF TIME

Oh, right!  I forgot how their confrontation was often theorized by the “in the crib” line to be soon after LE’s creation, before the Calliope reveal.  Now that his original form is known to be Caliborn, in a separate place and session, a literal interpretation of “in the crib” could indicate some very specific times and places for the form of interference Dave’s final sacrifice† would take.

1. The image depicts Dave stopping Caliborn before he even enters.  I don’t think that’s likely; the timeline mechanics in Homestuck are very well thought out, and I don’t think he can glitch him straight out of existence when said existence has ontological inertia.  But… perhaps through that (or a Scratch, see 2), he could facilitate a separate version of Paradox Space where Lord English doesn’t exist? (Perhaps Calliope’s role isn’t to embody Paradox Space itself, but an entirely new iteration of it, as “nothing new happens in Paradox Space” but something could very well occur outside it?  And maybe Lord English is fracturing reality to break into other- *head explodes*
2. Dave could interfere during the final stretch of Caliborn and Calliope’s game session.  We know that Caliborn results in Lord English, but there’s still a large gap in that session for important events to take place, especially those with the keys to stopping him.  Dave could have attacked him, hindered him somehow, tied him into a loop that constricts his progression through the universe, stolen one of their particularly ‘hot’ jujus and 'dropped’ it somewhere that results in the kids having a method of attack against English… perhaps even scratched their session, and/or somehow allowed Calliope to reach God-Tier in some branch!  In fact, you know how Skaia’s become blackened?  Perhaps, though Dave would be personally involved, others could have helped from afar… what if a God-Tier Roxy blacked out their Skaia remotely, preventing Caliborn from foreseeing Dave’s fateful interference?!
3. Calliope and Caliborn were born and raised by someone else’s actions, on the trolls’ meteor, given equipment and supplies to facilitate their nature.  (Gamzee is a very likely candidate.)  So what if Dave did something to the young little dualblooded alien?  …Though I admittedly can’t imagine what.

† Yes, it’s very likely that Dave can’t come back from whatever he does.  We can’t be certain, but what we think means his permanent death in the process has been foreshadowed since Cascade.

2012-7-29